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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Panic: The Union Did NOT Vote to Strike</title>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2010/03/12/dont-panic-the-union-did-not-vote-to-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-27574</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if there is a strike it won&#039;t last long.  There will be enough MLS guys that cross the line because they can&#039;t financially handle being out of work.  The owners will get other players that would jump at a chance to play in a pro league, and they will field teams.  The season might have a delayed start, but it would go on.  The owners won&#039;t be hurting because of a strike.  And the general/casual fan won&#039;t know there is a strike or the difference as to who is on the field since they just see uniforms.  Ouside of a few big names (Donovan, Beckham, Keller, etc.) most wouldn&#039;t recognize a player walking down the street.  I really don&#039;t think the players have enough leverage at this point.  A few more years with a more established league, maybe, but not now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if there is a strike it won&#8217;t last long.  There will be enough MLS guys that cross the line because they can&#8217;t financially handle being out of work.  The owners will get other players that would jump at a chance to play in a pro league, and they will field teams.  The season might have a delayed start, but it would go on.  The owners won&#8217;t be hurting because of a strike.  And the general/casual fan won&#8217;t know there is a strike or the difference as to who is on the field since they just see uniforms.  Ouside of a few big names (Donovan, Beckham, Keller, etc.) most wouldn&#8217;t recognize a player walking down the street.  I really don&#8217;t think the players have enough leverage at this point.  A few more years with a more established league, maybe, but not now.</p>
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		<title>By: PC Cobb</title>
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		<dc:creator>PC Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually we might do pretty good in s Scab league.  Bet we&#039;d make the playoffs for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually we might do pretty good in s Scab league.  Bet we&#8217;d make the playoffs for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: gstommylee</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2010/03/12/dont-panic-the-union-did-not-vote-to-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-27542</link>
		<dc:creator>gstommylee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say the &quot;no need for a 2nd vote&quot; is just to put pressure on the league.  

And to think they can claim they have agreed to strike while still under mediation talks with the league is wrong.  

I just don&#039;t think they have the vote do actually call the strike. 

shlebyg75

a vote to authorize a vote to strike is different than a vote to actually strike. 

But as long as the players are continuing to talk under mediation with the league they can not strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say the &#8220;no need for a 2nd vote&#8221; is just to put pressure on the league.  </p>
<p>And to think they can claim they have agreed to strike while still under mediation talks with the league is wrong.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t think they have the vote do actually call the strike. </p>
<p>shlebyg75</p>
<p>a vote to authorize a vote to strike is different than a vote to actually strike. </p>
<p>But as long as the players are continuing to talk under mediation with the league they can not strike.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes they did douche. How does it feel to be a Bill Archer shill. kumquat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes they did douche. How does it feel to be a Bill Archer shill. kumquat.</p>
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		<title>By: smorbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>smorbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be right, but the answer would be in the Union&#039;s bylaws.  Every Union is different.  E.g., some say that a 2/3 rejection of a contract is automatically strike authorization.  There&#039;s no law requiring a 2-step vote process like you described.  Get your hands on the MLSPU&#039;s bylaws and you&#039;d have your answer.  Possibly they&#039;re filed with the MD agency responsible for corporate filings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be right, but the answer would be in the Union&#8217;s bylaws.  Every Union is different.  E.g., some say that a 2/3 rejection of a contract is automatically strike authorization.  There&#8217;s no law requiring a 2-step vote process like you described.  Get your hands on the MLSPU&#8217;s bylaws and you&#8217;d have your answer.  Possibly they&#8217;re filed with the MD agency responsible for corporate filings.</p>
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		<title>By: ms</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2010/03/12/dont-panic-the-union-did-not-vote-to-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-27515</link>
		<dc:creator>ms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the possibility of scabs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the possibility of scabs?</p>
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		<title>By: shlebyg75</title>
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		<dc:creator>shlebyg75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this vote gives the negotiating committee the power to get something done now... I understand many of the players concerns and actually hope they can make some progress. Until now I feel like they were a bunch of high school students signing a petition to get the principal to do something... I hope this may give them a little power and credibility now. 

One problem I see is very little of the top tier players speaking out in support of this. Apparently they are supporting it, a 350-2 vote would seem to imply that. But I think having some of the top players speaking out as to the issues and problems may give them more credibility at least in the public eye...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this vote gives the negotiating committee the power to get something done now&#8230; I understand many of the players concerns and actually hope they can make some progress. Until now I feel like they were a bunch of high school students signing a petition to get the principal to do something&#8230; I hope this may give them a little power and credibility now. </p>
<p>One problem I see is very little of the top tier players speaking out in support of this. Apparently they are supporting it, a 350-2 vote would seem to imply that. But I think having some of the top players speaking out as to the issues and problems may give them more credibility at least in the public eye&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we know that the league has yet to negotiate in good faith? They may not have caved to demands that their business model be redesigned, but that doesn&#039;t mean they haven&#039;t tried to work with the players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we know that the league has yet to negotiate in good faith? They may not have caved to demands that their business model be redesigned, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they haven&#8217;t tried to work with the players.</p>
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		<title>By: soccerroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>soccerroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ehat does a strike vote  do to the foreign -players work visas?  That would be the one reason I could see them not wanting a strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehat does a strike vote  do to the foreign -players work visas?  That would be the one reason I could see them not wanting a strike.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sweeper: Strike Looms in MLS, Will the Players Lose the PR Battle With Fans? &#124; Pitch Invasion</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sweeper: Strike Looms in MLS, Will the Players Lose the PR Battle With Fans? &#124; Pitch Invasion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] problem is that according to Buzz Carrick, a further vote will be needed by the players to actually go on strike. This means that any strike [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] problem is that according to Buzz Carrick, a further vote will be needed by the players to actually go on strike. This means that any strike [...]</p>
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