i’m just glad those that list the home team first also don’t try to drive on the left side of the road.

That home team first thing is really confusing given the way the present the bracket. It looks like SJ is the 2 seed and RSL is the 7 seed.

Agree 1000%. Don’t even get me started on those jackasses.

Boo the AP standard!

What does the AP standard say about Tennis and their wacky use of the word “love” instead of zero? AP standard does not apply. The richness of the language of the sport supercedes any old standard set by the AP.

In Soccer, the home team is listed first all around the world. It is part of the culture of the sport, and as such it also should supercede the AP standard.

Ap standard for zero in tennis is love. That is part of the rules in tennis. Which team is listed firstb is not part of game rules, it is a news standard.

So the solution is clear, the outdated AP standard needs to be updated.

“New England Revolutions”

WTF?

“Quit trying to be a Euro poser.”
Great line.

This IS America!

an alternate solution is Chamo can move to Europe

“It is part of the culture of the sport,”

For a moment I thought you were talking about messing around with your teammates spouse…

Hey Ragnar, Giggs, how do you know that I don’t live there already?

In reality, I pay much more attention to the game played in South America than I do to the Euro game. I will give you three guesses what they do down there.

When is FCD signing that forward? It is sad that a comment the AP way of doing things gets more reaction than anything that the team is doing.

Agree on the standard, this is the U.S., don’t give non-soccer fans yet another reason to not like the sport or think it’s too confusing. Some screwball might see a USOC schedule and see DCU vs. FC Dallas and show up at PHP and wonder where everyone is!!

Hoping for a good USOC run but this is not the way to start.

FCD needs to have a good season to be in a better qualifying position at the end of the season (for USOC, CCL if possible, etc.).

Go Toros!

Why cater to somebody that isn’t going to even notice that you are catering to them?

The day a non-soccer fan shows up to a US Open cup game will be the first day it ever happened. Hell, the day more than a thousand soccer fans show up to a Open Cup game at PHP would be a more impressive first.

We had more than a thousand at the final awhile back. Not usual, I know, but it’s true! And we lost. =(

I agree with Chamo. 100+ years of worldwide soccer tradition > American snobbery. Be consistent with the rest of the soccer world; list home team first.

Rich,

So, you want to use the metric system too?

How about European Socialism & Healthcare? Why don’t you move to Greece, they’re having lots of fun there now. But, at least they list the home team of a match first, so you should be happy – right?

You sound like a sheep not a lion.

Lacrosse and basketball fans are amused by the irony.

We list the home team second in the US because of baseball…the home team bats last. In soccer, the home team is listed first in virtually every country. Is it too tough to adopt home team first for soccer in the US? I dont think the rest of the world is going to change to accomodate us as far as soccer goes.

Hahaha Saban, that was a sad use of logic there.

Use worldwide standards for which team is listed first=

Wait for it…

European Socialism & Healthcare.

Yeouch.
(Finland rocks btw.)

When is the last time DC United played an away match in the USOC?

Casey,

You grabbed the part you wanted from my statement and put out a strawman – instead of using correct logic yourself.

The logic of my statement is responding to Rich attacking America as Snobs. Is that so hard to understand?

Let me explain, it works like this:

Rich poses that America is snobs for not following European Soccer tadition. This implies that Rich thinks more highly of Europe than America (at least on this issue). But if you call Americans snobs, you probably think Europe is better than America in other ways as well. Thus, I put out some examples where Europe is hapless, thus indicating that America is true & good.

Was that easy enough for you to follow?

Casey you set up your own strawman there.

Home team is listed second in EVERY U.S. sport, INCLUDING MLS. It is not snobbery, it is adapting how the game is presented in this country.

During the MLS reg. season a game between Houston Dynamo and FC Dallas in Frisco is listed as Houston AT Dallas, not Houston vs. Dallas, the latter being interpreted across the pond the game would be in Houston.

Should MLS start listing games as FC Dallas vs. Houston Dynamo for the 3/27 opener at PHP?!?

Haha, you put me in my place! Actually Saban, the quote was “American snobbery”, not all Americans were snobs. You can call this however you like.

“So, you want to use the metric system too?

How about European Socialism & Healthcare? Why don’t you move to Greece, they’re having lots of fun there now. But, at least they list the home team of a match first, so you should be happy – right?

You sound like a sheep not a lion.”

All of that from one comment of “American snobbery”.

What Rich implies is that he likes the method of using the home team first. That’s it. You take from that differently than I take from it, that’s fine.
I can grab the first part of your statement, or the whole thing, and still use the exact same logic I used before.

We can bicker all we want, we don’t need to though. I love America just as much as you do, but we’re not 100% right on everything, and we don’t agree on everything, heh. Kinda why we rock.

Anywho, agree to disagree.

This explains why, after never missing a game for most of the franchise’s history, I have not attended a game in three years. It is not that a once proud team is now a joke, nor because I no longer feel welcome.

I could not figure out the schedule.

Saban – you extrapolated well beyond the boundaries of my comments. This is a soccer forum; please do not complicate it by mixing in political or social comparisons.

There are a great many things at which the USA is better than the rest of the world. Soccer is not one of those…. yet. Like it or not, we are newbies on the soccer stage – especially at the club/league level.

In this case, it is my opinion we should adjust to the world model for soccer and display home team first.

You also mysteriously singled out Europe. I never mentioned one continent over another.

So please, let’s keep this on topic.

Home teams should always be listed first because it simply makes sense. It’s only due to baseball that things are different here. Why should soccer try to copy baseball?