Good stuff. I look at Drew Moor as ‘if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.’ He was an FCD starter for years and we never had a reliable defense.

Like you said, this can be misleading for offensive players that usually go 90 (like Cooper, VdB), since they may not have much at all to do with the defensive lapses.
The most fascinating aspect of this is the John, Ugo, Benitez, Pearce, Hernandez, Sala numbers in comparison to the Moor, Torres, Purdy, Wagner, Saragosa, Burse numbers.

My work comp blocks Climbing the Ladder. Are the stats for Moor and Ugo for FCD alone, or their total stats with both FCD and the cRapids?

FCD alone. For example, Harris is +5 at FCD, but +10 FCD and Chivas combined.

Ugo was +1 at Col, Moor -4. Although again Moor arrived right when they had a ton of injuries and went down hill.

I think quite highly of Moor as a player, but this year, at least in terms of +/-, he had a really bad season.

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This is NOT correct info…..
Check the 2 keepers
So, we scored 44 w/Sala-Burse and allowed 43?
Well, in reality we scored 50 and allowed 47
So, we scored 6 and allowed 4 w/neither keeper on the field??
Please explain

“I’ve decided to only include the minutes played where both teams were at full strength, and only goals scored and allowed during 11 on 11 play are included below.”

It’s only a valid stat for subs or players that played partial seasons. For the regular starters the plus-minus will be the same as the Goal Differential for the team, which tells you nothing of the individual’s play.

Very interesting, but I agree with Tex. This kind of “statistic” has limited use in sports like soccer, because unlike hockey and basketball the player-personnel on the pitch do not change as much as they do on the ice or court. (E.g. Regular starters like McCarty and Ferriera average close to the team average.) With that said, it is particularly effective in evaluating personnel changes / injuries during the course of the season (G. John, Ihemulu). Also, I’m skeptical in finding any predictive value in a stat such as this.

Buzz, sorry to be off topic here, but will you be getting those GenAd primary lists this year like you have done in the past? Just wondering!!

Great work on the GenAd page.

I’m not going to the final four, but I’ll look my friend up and see if he is getting them. I imagine I will be able to get them off him.

I actually find this an interesting stat. I’ve never thought of using it for soccer. I believe it tells you SOME stuff about the player, but not all. You still have to work your way to play on the field, so I believe that the whole “It doesn’t work for soccer” thing isn’t true. It does. You can tell who the missing link would be. You can tell from the defense alone. We really turned it around once we redid our back line.

Great news!!!

These stats will be celebrated by bus boy if he sees them.

I sure hope George John avoids the injury bug in 2010.

I guess my question for it’s use for FCD is that since all 4 defenders, the goalie and defensive mid changed it’s hard to compare the new against the old. Obviously the new as a group was better but was every player better or did some with the old group look bad because of who they were surrounded by and vice versa with the new. It would be telling on a team with mostly stable starters where two players split time.