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	<title>Comments on: 120 Fahrenheit: Hyndman 5 and 5</title>
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		<title>By: viking64</title>
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		<dc:creator>viking64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SH is an ass?  Good.
I don&#039;t know if anyone has noticed, but a decade has gone by, and the Dallas franchise has yet to win anything since that other ass left the head coaching slot, Dave Dir.  Dave, my hat is off to you.  Heck, they have not even made the Cup Final.

I no longer have time for anything but ruthless pursuit of an MLS Cup, and neither does the franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SH is an ass?  Good.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if anyone has noticed, but a decade has gone by, and the Dallas franchise has yet to win anything since that other ass left the head coaching slot, Dave Dir.  Dave, my hat is off to you.  Heck, they have not even made the Cup Final.</p>
<p>I no longer have time for anything but ruthless pursuit of an MLS Cup, and neither does the franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: El Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with Teddy that comparing to NCAA is tough.  There are plenty of average coaches who have won, so winning isn&#039;t great justification.

A sample of some of the more specific things directly related to SH (didn&#039;t get into player personnel decisions, which are terrible also, but not completely attributable to him) that get me:
*Playing players in positions they either haven&#039;t played in before, or aren&#039;t suited for technically, physically, or tactically--McCarty on the wing, Cunningham outside mid, Torres anywhere on the field, Saragosa at outside mid or outside back.
*The Bruno Guarda fiasco
*The Saragosa fiasco
*Letting his 12 year old grandson train with the team
*How he handles players, in the media and elsewhere.  Completely unprofessional
*Making excuses for losing, blaming his team
*Not tweaking the system to the personnel; not every coach has every perfect player, good coaches deal with it, he blames it for his failures
*In game decision making--so many choices here, but in general just not good.  Untimely subs, either late or early; playing Rocha even though he was worthless and clearly didn&#039;t care
*Treatment of the young players.  You&#039;ve got Saragosa et al, who has no potential and is terrible taking minutes from a young guy (Shea, Avila) who could be developing into a very good player
*Calling players out for being injured.  this goes under treatment of players, but WTF, if the guy is injured he&#039;s injured.  Even if he&#039;s being &quot;soft&quot; you don&#039;t call him out, there are doctors that sign off on playing or not.

Never been rubbed the wrong way by him, don&#039;t know him at all.  These are my observations and this is why I think he&#039;s a bad coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with Teddy that comparing to NCAA is tough.  There are plenty of average coaches who have won, so winning isn&#8217;t great justification.</p>
<p>A sample of some of the more specific things directly related to SH (didn&#8217;t get into player personnel decisions, which are terrible also, but not completely attributable to him) that get me:<br />
*Playing players in positions they either haven&#8217;t played in before, or aren&#8217;t suited for technically, physically, or tactically&#8211;McCarty on the wing, Cunningham outside mid, Torres anywhere on the field, Saragosa at outside mid or outside back.<br />
*The Bruno Guarda fiasco<br />
*The Saragosa fiasco<br />
*Letting his 12 year old grandson train with the team<br />
*How he handles players, in the media and elsewhere.  Completely unprofessional<br />
*Making excuses for losing, blaming his team<br />
*Not tweaking the system to the personnel; not every coach has every perfect player, good coaches deal with it, he blames it for his failures<br />
*In game decision making&#8211;so many choices here, but in general just not good.  Untimely subs, either late or early; playing Rocha even though he was worthless and clearly didn&#8217;t care<br />
*Treatment of the young players.  You&#8217;ve got Saragosa et al, who has no potential and is terrible taking minutes from a young guy (Shea, Avila) who could be developing into a very good player<br />
*Calling players out for being injured.  this goes under treatment of players, but WTF, if the guy is injured he&#8217;s injured.  Even if he&#8217;s being &#8220;soft&#8221; you don&#8217;t call him out, there are doctors that sign off on playing or not.</p>
<p>Never been rubbed the wrong way by him, don&#8217;t know him at all.  These are my observations and this is why I think he&#8217;s a bad coach.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so Schellas Hyndman hasn&#039;t won a NCAA championship as a coach. But, that fact alone doesn&#039;t establish that SH is a poor coach. Let&#039;s put aside for the moment the notion that a NCAA championship is somehow easier than a MLS one (I&#039;m not convinced it is). SH has in fact distinguished himself as a &quot;winning&quot; coach, as the term is commonly understood. As a college coach, he has finished third and second in Div. II,  and third in Div. I. Also, he has compiled a fairly decent record of 466-122-49 over a lengthy college coaching career, winning numerous coach of year type honors. It&#039;s dishonest to say or imply that SH is a &quot;loser&quot; or a second rate coach based on the results. 

As far as a pro coach, at best, all you can say is that SH gets an &quot;I&quot; for incomplete. One and a half seasons as coach, an almost complete turnover of players during this season, and only one game out of the playoffs. One game. 

Most of the criticism seems to be from people who have gotten &quot;rubbed&quot; the wrong way by something SH did or said. Or they claim something equally meaningless and generic like SH doesn&#039;t know how to win big games (bc he won four in a row instead of 5). I think all the naysayers should put there body where their mouth and challenge SH to a bout of ju-jutsu, so SH can deliver a swift kick to the you-know-what. But that  would probably rub their sensitive soccer-selves the wrong way too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so Schellas Hyndman hasn&#8217;t won a NCAA championship as a coach. But, that fact alone doesn&#8217;t establish that SH is a poor coach. Let&#8217;s put aside for the moment the notion that a NCAA championship is somehow easier than a MLS one (I&#8217;m not convinced it is). SH has in fact distinguished himself as a &#8220;winning&#8221; coach, as the term is commonly understood. As a college coach, he has finished third and second in Div. II,  and third in Div. I. Also, he has compiled a fairly decent record of 466-122-49 over a lengthy college coaching career, winning numerous coach of year type honors. It&#8217;s dishonest to say or imply that SH is a &#8220;loser&#8221; or a second rate coach based on the results. </p>
<p>As far as a pro coach, at best, all you can say is that SH gets an &#8220;I&#8221; for incomplete. One and a half seasons as coach, an almost complete turnover of players during this season, and only one game out of the playoffs. One game. </p>
<p>Most of the criticism seems to be from people who have gotten &#8220;rubbed&#8221; the wrong way by something SH did or said. Or they claim something equally meaningless and generic like SH doesn&#8217;t know how to win big games (bc he won four in a row instead of 5). I think all the naysayers should put there body where their mouth and challenge SH to a bout of ju-jutsu, so SH can deliver a swift kick to the you-know-what. But that  would probably rub their sensitive soccer-selves the wrong way too.</p>
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		<title>By: HammerHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>HammerHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad,  I had the opportunity to spend a long time chatting to SH while in Seattle.   Do I agree with all he had done this year or the way he has spoken to players? No, but he has gotten results.

Give the man 2010... he deserves it for what has occurred late season.  My conversation with him dicovered the opposite of smugness.  He was very humble yet determined and talked about his support of his players with a genuine compassion and enthusiasm.  Time will tell whether it ends up in Champioships or playoffs, but to write him and this team off is disrepecting the effort the guys on field have been showing in part 2 of the season.  

I like the way this team is working now.  I don&#039;t care if the guys are having fun.  I DO CARE that they are taking the game seriously and fighting for every bloody point.  That is what they are doing now, and I am proud of them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad,  I had the opportunity to spend a long time chatting to SH while in Seattle.   Do I agree with all he had done this year or the way he has spoken to players? No, but he has gotten results.</p>
<p>Give the man 2010&#8230; he deserves it for what has occurred late season.  My conversation with him dicovered the opposite of smugness.  He was very humble yet determined and talked about his support of his players with a genuine compassion and enthusiasm.  Time will tell whether it ends up in Champioships or playoffs, but to write him and this team off is disrepecting the effort the guys on field have been showing in part 2 of the season.  </p>
<p>I like the way this team is working now.  I don&#8217;t care if the guys are having fun.  I DO CARE that they are taking the game seriously and fighting for every bloody point.  That is what they are doing now, and I am proud of them!</p>
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		<title>By: El Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While my thoughts aren&#039;t as personal, Chad I fear you are likely going to be right on in the bigger picture.

I don&#039;t think he&#039;s a good coach.  I&#039;ve got a laundry list, but I don&#039;t feel like typing it out.  I&#039;m afraid we will be sitting here next year saying the same things as this year, and he will be continuing to make excuses one way or the other about why he didn&#039;t succeed.  It&#039;s a pattern of behavior, they are character traits; he&#039;s been doing this for a long time, and he&#039;s been very average for a long time.  What makes us think things will get better?  A good run of form late in the season?  JC going on a freakish goal scoring run?  Guys, wake up, until the organization hires first class people, it&#039;s not going to be a first class team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my thoughts aren&#8217;t as personal, Chad I fear you are likely going to be right on in the bigger picture.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a good coach.  I&#8217;ve got a laundry list, but I don&#8217;t feel like typing it out.  I&#8217;m afraid we will be sitting here next year saying the same things as this year, and he will be continuing to make excuses one way or the other about why he didn&#8217;t succeed.  It&#8217;s a pattern of behavior, they are character traits; he&#8217;s been doing this for a long time, and he&#8217;s been very average for a long time.  What makes us think things will get better?  A good run of form late in the season?  JC going on a freakish goal scoring run?  Guys, wake up, until the organization hires first class people, it&#8217;s not going to be a first class team.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have met SH on several occasions while I was in college, and while refereeing either his club team or SMU, and trust me, he is an absolute ASS of the highest order. He is smug, holier than thou, and he has no reason to be, since he has won no championships in college or the pros. His self belief comes from him and him alone, not what he has accomplished. All of the other coaches mentioned were at least winners.

I hated to be right about Saturday&#039;s game, but my fears were realized. SH cannot win the big game. Didn&#039;t do it in college, and hasn&#039;t done it in the pros thus far. I have no faith in him. Why others do boggles the mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have met SH on several occasions while I was in college, and while refereeing either his club team or SMU, and trust me, he is an absolute ASS of the highest order. He is smug, holier than thou, and he has no reason to be, since he has won no championships in college or the pros. His self belief comes from him and him alone, not what he has accomplished. All of the other coaches mentioned were at least winners.</p>
<p>I hated to be right about Saturday&#8217;s game, but my fears were realized. SH cannot win the big game. Didn&#8217;t do it in college, and hasn&#8217;t done it in the pros thus far. I have no faith in him. Why others do boggles the mind.</p>
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		<title>By: George Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Buzz, It is nice to have the honest opinion of someone who is actually there at the practices and is at the games and behind the scenes. You definitely have your finger on the true pulse of FCD.

I guess what is great about this site is it allows everyone to air their opinion on FCD but you know what they say about opinions, Opinions are like Schellas, everyone has one&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Buzz, It is nice to have the honest opinion of someone who is actually there at the practices and is at the games and behind the scenes. You definitely have your finger on the true pulse of FCD.</p>
<p>I guess what is great about this site is it allows everyone to air their opinion on FCD but you know what they say about opinions, Opinions are like Schellas, everyone has one&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz,
Thank you for the fair analysis.  I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll see the strengths and weaknesses as next season progresses.  I&#039;d like to request a re-assessment at midseason next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz,<br />
Thank you for the fair analysis.  I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll see the strengths and weaknesses as next season progresses.  I&#8217;d like to request a re-assessment at midseason next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Carrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Carrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, in game changes is an important evaluation.  I am giving him a little bit of a break because of not having the guys he wanted available. 

But now that he&#039;s getting his team in place, that excuse will go away and yes we will all be watching that carefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, in game changes is an important evaluation.  I am giving him a little bit of a break because of not having the guys he wanted available. </p>
<p>But now that he&#8217;s getting his team in place, that excuse will go away and yes we will all be watching that carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In-game coaching is the next important factor to analyze in assessing Hyndman&#039;s effectiveness thus far, and in the future.  Great article Buzz!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In-game coaching is the next important factor to analyze in assessing Hyndman&#8217;s effectiveness thus far, and in the future.  Great article Buzz!!</p>
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