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	<title>Comments on: Commentary: Why the Hoops Nickname Will Never Go Away</title>
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		<title>By: Harry C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soccer is about being unique...being yourself...being true to your sport.  For all you Americans...maybe you are too close to other sports.  If the FO and all reporters and all players pushed the &quot;Hoops&quot; as a nickname it would stick, it would work and it would be soccer.  Fans - get a backbone and stick with it with pride.

Sure this isn&#039;t Scotland but what is?  There are plenty of boring, conservative &quot;nicknames&quot;...why not stand up and be unique?  Why do you cower to the American media (David, Buzz, etc.).  If this were any other ownership and FO, it would be everywhere.  And because it is so &quot;non-American&quot; people would notice, people would remember and if the team would ever win, people would follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soccer is about being unique&#8230;being yourself&#8230;being true to your sport.  For all you Americans&#8230;maybe you are too close to other sports.  If the FO and all reporters and all players pushed the &#8220;Hoops&#8221; as a nickname it would stick, it would work and it would be soccer.  Fans &#8211; get a backbone and stick with it with pride.</p>
<p>Sure this isn&#8217;t Scotland but what is?  There are plenty of boring, conservative &#8220;nicknames&#8221;&#8230;why not stand up and be unique?  Why do you cower to the American media (David, Buzz, etc.).  If this were any other ownership and FO, it would be everywhere.  And because it is so &#8220;non-American&#8221; people would notice, people would remember and if the team would ever win, people would follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinsley's Big Drink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinsley's Big Drink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This club is the Hoops!  Funny how the newbies to the great game don&#039;t have any idea! Hoops is a great nickname that has years and years of tradition in Scotland (Celtic). I have know idea why the so called &quot;Marketing Team&quot; would want to kill it, other than the fact that like everything else they do, it makes no sense. The biggest problem this club has is that there are no &quot;Soccer&quot; minds in the front office. The so called &quot;Marketing Team&quot; should contact some of the old pro&#039;s still in the area such as Moffat, Renshaw, and Cooper Sr. to revisit how the Tornado used to do things! I could go on forever. One more thing..Gordon Hill for gaffer!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This club is the Hoops!  Funny how the newbies to the great game don&#8217;t have any idea! Hoops is a great nickname that has years and years of tradition in Scotland (Celtic). I have know idea why the so called &#8220;Marketing Team&#8221; would want to kill it, other than the fact that like everything else they do, it makes no sense. The biggest problem this club has is that there are no &#8220;Soccer&#8221; minds in the front office. The so called &#8220;Marketing Team&#8221; should contact some of the old pro&#8217;s still in the area such as Moffat, Renshaw, and Cooper Sr. to revisit how the Tornado used to do things! I could go on forever. One more thing..Gordon Hill for gaffer!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: scott47a</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott47a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just FYI, the Seattle Times reporter called FCD &quot;the Hoops&quot; on his blog two days ago.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/soundersfcblog/2010012114_mls_week_30_things_to_watch_fo.html

Whatever word your FO thought they put out didn&#039;t travel far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just FYI, the Seattle Times reporter called FCD &#8220;the Hoops&#8221; on his blog two days ago.</p>
<p><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/soundersfcblog/2010012114_mls_week_30_things_to_watch_fo.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/soundersfcblog/2010012114_mls_week_30_things_to_watch_fo.html'>http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...eek_30_things_to_watch_fo.html</a></p>
<p>Whatever word your FO thought they put out didn&#8217;t travel far.</p>
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		<title>By: tater</title>
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		<dc:creator>tater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tater is SICK of the whining about FCD/Burn &quot;losing&quot; the Hispanic market. Face it white folks- ya never had it to begin with.

You can blame Sucklake, HSG, Uncle Lamar, John Wiley Price, Laura Miller or anyone else- the fact is the Hispanic market turned their backs on Dallas soccer generations ago.

Sure you could go to the Cotton Bowl and see a few thousand sitting in GA. Big Deal. Those tix were either free, in-trade or heavily discounted by sponsors. Even at game day prices it ran as little as $5 a butt.

The Cotton Bowl kept every last $ of parking and concession revenue and FCD/Burn got jack for playing there. Moving ANYWHERE else was a sound financial decision.

The vaunted, lamented Hispanic crowd we all cherish was walking distance to the Cotton Bowl and still only managed to sell about 5,000 seats per game. With most of those day of game seats, Uncle lamar knew that selling season tix to our alledged Hispanic fan base was wasted dollars.

Hey &quot;Time for Oscar&quot; did you convienantly forget about Davino, Ruiz, or Denilson? those are  perfect examples of player selection by a marketing idiot. 
Overage &amp; overpaid. 

This team has bent over backwards to provide a hero for all the little Jose &amp; Juans to idolize. Unfortunately their parents don&#039;t care about Dallas soccer enough. Oh, they&#039;ll pay $130 a seat for a third string El Tri playing a meaningless exhibition game but won&#039;t drop $50 for the entire family to see FCD.
F#@&amp; em! Bring on the Plano soccer moms with fake boobs and the season tickets they&#039;ll buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tater is SICK of the whining about FCD/Burn &#8220;losing&#8221; the Hispanic market. Face it white folks- ya never had it to begin with.</p>
<p>You can blame Sucklake, HSG, Uncle Lamar, John Wiley Price, Laura Miller or anyone else- the fact is the Hispanic market turned their backs on Dallas soccer generations ago.</p>
<p>Sure you could go to the Cotton Bowl and see a few thousand sitting in GA. Big Deal. Those tix were either free, in-trade or heavily discounted by sponsors. Even at game day prices it ran as little as $5 a butt.</p>
<p>The Cotton Bowl kept every last $ of parking and concession revenue and FCD/Burn got jack for playing there. Moving ANYWHERE else was a sound financial decision.</p>
<p>The vaunted, lamented Hispanic crowd we all cherish was walking distance to the Cotton Bowl and still only managed to sell about 5,000 seats per game. With most of those day of game seats, Uncle lamar knew that selling season tix to our alledged Hispanic fan base was wasted dollars.</p>
<p>Hey &#8220;Time for Oscar&#8221; did you convienantly forget about Davino, Ruiz, or Denilson? those are  perfect examples of player selection by a marketing idiot.<br />
Overage &amp; overpaid. </p>
<p>This team has bent over backwards to provide a hero for all the little Jose &amp; Juans to idolize. Unfortunately their parents don&#8217;t care about Dallas soccer enough. Oh, they&#8217;ll pay $130 a seat for a third string El Tri playing a meaningless exhibition game but won&#8217;t drop $50 for the entire family to see FCD.<br />
F#@&amp; em! Bring on the Plano soccer moms with fake boobs and the season tickets they&#8217;ll buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Time for Oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time for Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh shit,, I forgot one more thing!! HIRE OSCAR FOR HEAD COACH !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh shit,, I forgot one more thing!! HIRE OSCAR FOR HEAD COACH !!</p>
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		<title>By: Time for Oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time for Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad, you are partly right.. The Hispanics dont&#039; like the location. For SEVERAL reasons..Wcich Im not going to say here. ALSO, the fO threw them away before they went out there. They traded away the very marketable Hispanic players they had. They stopped marketing to them completely. And, they fired, or let get away, very key hispanic marketting fo people. (IMHO one of them could bring back a HUGE portion of the lost Hispanic fans) Charlie might confirm my opinion on that.. So IMO it&#039;s been the overall ATTITUDE of the club since Hunt&#039;s took over and ANdy Swift left. My advice is they hire back three key Hispanic people they let get away and the whole face of this team would change. IMMEDIATELY !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad, you are partly right.. The Hispanics dont&#8217; like the location. For SEVERAL reasons..Wcich Im not going to say here. ALSO, the fO threw them away before they went out there. They traded away the very marketable Hispanic players they had. They stopped marketing to them completely. And, they fired, or let get away, very key hispanic marketting fo people. (IMHO one of them could bring back a HUGE portion of the lost Hispanic fans) Charlie might confirm my opinion on that.. So IMO it&#8217;s been the overall ATTITUDE of the club since Hunt&#8217;s took over and ANdy Swift left. My advice is they hire back three key Hispanic people they let get away and the whole face of this team would change. IMMEDIATELY !!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of you who say that location is not the problem: Have your heads examined. If you have been around since day 1, you would know that half (or more) of the fandom were Hispanic. When the team moved to the burbs (both Southlake and Frisco), the Hiapanic audience all but disappeared. FO went after the White soccer-mom suburban money, thinking that they would actually come to games. WRONG!!! After little Johnny and little Susie have their U-7 games, parents don&#039;t want to drive to the stadium and pay $20 minimum per person to see even a good team play. Hispanic poputation has all but given up on this team, it doesn&#039;t play in the city center where most of them are. BTW, do you notice where the successful teams attendance wise have their stadiums? In or near the center of town. And the not-so-successful? They built stadiums in the styx, just like FCD did.

Prices are a HUGE ISSUE with this as well. Tix are way too expensive for games. End zone seats should be $10, corner seats $12-15, east side seats $15-20, West side seats $20-25, with club section $30-35. HSG is soaking what little public is left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of you who say that location is not the problem: Have your heads examined. If you have been around since day 1, you would know that half (or more) of the fandom were Hispanic. When the team moved to the burbs (both Southlake and Frisco), the Hiapanic audience all but disappeared. FO went after the White soccer-mom suburban money, thinking that they would actually come to games. WRONG!!! After little Johnny and little Susie have their U-7 games, parents don&#8217;t want to drive to the stadium and pay $20 minimum per person to see even a good team play. Hispanic poputation has all but given up on this team, it doesn&#8217;t play in the city center where most of them are. BTW, do you notice where the successful teams attendance wise have their stadiums? In or near the center of town. And the not-so-successful? They built stadiums in the styx, just like FCD did.</p>
<p>Prices are a HUGE ISSUE with this as well. Tix are way too expensive for games. End zone seats should be $10, corner seats $12-15, east side seats $15-20, West side seats $20-25, with club section $30-35. HSG is soaking what little public is left.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam E-Agreed. They do NOT look good on anyone but soccer players, so it is a hard sell to get people to wear them around. 

However, I have seen a lot of people outside of the games wearing FCD shirts (not all jerseys). Maybe that is just up in Denton where the students are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam E-Agreed. They do NOT look good on anyone but soccer players, so it is a hard sell to get people to wear them around. </p>
<p>However, I have seen a lot of people outside of the games wearing FCD shirts (not all jerseys). Maybe that is just up in Denton where the students are?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoops, Toros, Red Stripes, Puffy, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Diddy.  Whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoops, Toros, Red Stripes, Puffy, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Diddy.  Whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently moved out to DC and I consistently see people sporting DCU jerseys.  In all of my years in Dallas I&#039;ve only run into one person rockin the hoops (all observations outside of a game of course).  I actually like the kits, they&#039;re unique in the league; they just aren&#039;t very flattering to the everyday causal dresser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently moved out to DC and I consistently see people sporting DCU jerseys.  In all of my years in Dallas I&#8217;ve only run into one person rockin the hoops (all observations outside of a game of course).  I actually like the kits, they&#8217;re unique in the league; they just aren&#8217;t very flattering to the everyday causal dresser.</p>
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