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	<title>Comments on: Monday Morning Gaffer: FCD vs TFC and FCDR vs RSLR</title>
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		<title>By: Wye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, that was funny Other Alex. 

Even funnier than Ortega getting a &quot;fresh start&quot; in Mendoza, the wine capital of Argentina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, that was funny Other Alex. </p>
<p>Even funnier than Ortega getting a &#8220;fresh start&#8221; in Mendoza, the wine capital of Argentina.</p>
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		<title>By: the other alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>the other alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seba: &quot;with Ortega serving Cooper we&#039;d be unstopable&quot;  only one problem with that, Cooper doesn&#039;t drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seba: &#8220;with Ortega serving Cooper we&#8217;d be unstopable&#8221;  only one problem with that, Cooper doesn&#8217;t drink.</p>
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		<title>By: Moose McDowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moose McDowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the insight.  You&#039;re right, I&#039;m more of an MLS fan.  

  You&#039;ll have to forgive me.  I come from a family of substance abuse workers, so I&#039;m naturally a bit of a cynic when I think about &quot;fresh starts&quot; and alcoholics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insight.  You&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m more of an MLS fan.  </p>
<p>  You&#8217;ll have to forgive me.  I come from a family of substance abuse workers, so I&#8217;m naturally a bit of a cynic when I think about &#8220;fresh starts&#8221; and alcoholics.</p>
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		<title>By: Seba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moose, you&#039;re obviously new to Argentinean futbol and the saga that is Ariel &#039;El Burrito&#039; Ortega.  In other words, it&#039;s always like this with him, but he WINS championships.  

He&#039;s playing in the 2nd Division by CHOICE.  Many first division teams tried to get his services (including his former club Newell&#039;s Old Boys).  My best guess is he realizes that there are too many temptations for him in the larger cities of Argentina and it&#039;s better to go to Mendoza, where it&#039;s more tranquil, to get well.

El Burrito is as big of a star as they come in Argentina, and I&#039;m sure he justs wants to get away from it all.  Personally, with the new coach and his former teammate (Sala) at FCD, I was of the opinion that this was the fresh start that El Burrito needed.  We could&#039;ve gotten him cheap and it would be our greatest chance in a long time to win a cup.  With Ortega servicing Cooper we&#039;d be unstoppable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moose, you&#8217;re obviously new to Argentinean futbol and the saga that is Ariel &#8216;El Burrito&#8217; Ortega.  In other words, it&#8217;s always like this with him, but he WINS championships.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s playing in the 2nd Division by CHOICE.  Many first division teams tried to get his services (including his former club Newell&#8217;s Old Boys).  My best guess is he realizes that there are too many temptations for him in the larger cities of Argentina and it&#8217;s better to go to Mendoza, where it&#8217;s more tranquil, to get well.</p>
<p>El Burrito is as big of a star as they come in Argentina, and I&#8217;m sure he justs wants to get away from it all.  Personally, with the new coach and his former teammate (Sala) at FCD, I was of the opinion that this was the fresh start that El Burrito needed.  We could&#8217;ve gotten him cheap and it would be our greatest chance in a long time to win a cup.  With Ortega servicing Cooper we&#8217;d be unstoppable.</p>
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		<title>By: hutchtx</title>
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		<dc:creator>hutchtx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  Buzz -- cool!  You found the photo I got of Jamie Watson&#039;s second goal.  I missed the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  Buzz &#8212; cool!  You found the photo I got of Jamie Watson&#8217;s second goal.  I missed the other.</p>
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		<title>By: hutchtx</title>
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		<dc:creator>hutchtx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking the same thing about Ricardinho.  He was on the bench, but didn&#039;t even get to play in the reserve game, whereas Watson and Guarda did . . . wow.  

Okay, just a comment about the headline photo &amp; comment . . . it&#039;s no secret that while I AM a diehard FCD fan (I was out yesterday, thanks to the luck of having the day off from work), that I was and still am a Juan Toja fan(atica).  Call it a &quot;girl thing&quot; or whatever.  But I was talking with another lifelong FCD fan yesterday at the game, about Toja . . . right or wrong from FCD&#039;s perspective, I can totally understand why he wanted this move -- and there may have been broken promises, etc.  that made it hard for him to truly want to play here, but I think it boils down to his dream/aspiration to play in Europe.  Unlike Kenny, Toja is NOT an American, so he wouldn&#039;t have the same ties to MLS . . . 

So while I hate it that he&#039;s gone, I understand why.  I even understand why, once he knew about the deal, that he might have been more than eager to make it happen.  (SIGH)  Oh, well . . .

P.S.  And being the Toja fan(antica), I may just have to learn Romanian . . . :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking the same thing about Ricardinho.  He was on the bench, but didn&#8217;t even get to play in the reserve game, whereas Watson and Guarda did . . . wow.  </p>
<p>Okay, just a comment about the headline photo &amp; comment . . . it&#8217;s no secret that while I AM a diehard FCD fan (I was out yesterday, thanks to the luck of having the day off from work), that I was and still am a Juan Toja fan(atica).  Call it a &#8220;girl thing&#8221; or whatever.  But I was talking with another lifelong FCD fan yesterday at the game, about Toja . . . right or wrong from FCD&#8217;s perspective, I can totally understand why he wanted this move &#8212; and there may have been broken promises, etc.  that made it hard for him to truly want to play here, but I think it boils down to his dream/aspiration to play in Europe.  Unlike Kenny, Toja is NOT an American, so he wouldn&#8217;t have the same ties to MLS . . . </p>
<p>So while I hate it that he&#8217;s gone, I understand why.  I even understand why, once he knew about the deal, that he might have been more than eager to make it happen.  (SIGH)  Oh, well . . .</p>
<p>P.S.  And being the Toja fan(antica), I may just have to learn Romanian . . . <img src='http://www.3rddegree.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Moose McDowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moose McDowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ariel Ortega debaucle gets worse and worse.  Now he&#039;s in the second division after his family refused to move to the UAE.  Man, am I glad we didn&#039;t sign him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ariel Ortega debaucle gets worse and worse.  Now he&#8217;s in the second division after his family refused to move to the UAE.  Man, am I glad we didn&#8217;t sign him.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how do you think things will shake out when Sikora and Dax are available?

And obviously were all dying for the Instant Scouting Report on the Argies.

And just curious - why didn&#039;t Ricardinho play in the reserve game?  Not even a token appearance?  If he is a going concern, he should be playing.  If not, then why are we wasting his salary and international spot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do you think things will shake out when Sikora and Dax are available?</p>
<p>And obviously were all dying for the Instant Scouting Report on the Argies.</p>
<p>And just curious &#8211; why didn&#8217;t Ricardinho play in the reserve game?  Not even a token appearance?  If he is a going concern, he should be playing.  If not, then why are we wasting his salary and international spot?</p>
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