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Thoughts, comments, and a little history in the wake of the Hyndman hire.

June 18th, 2008 . 8:33 am . By: Buzz Carrick

I think right off the top I have to say that the pres conference today was not what I expected. More specifically, Schellas wasn’t what I expected. I was actually left with the impression of a thoughtful and serious coach. More than any other coaching press conference I have witnessed, Hyndman seemed to seriously think about the questions asked and then give real, actual answers instead of clichés and coach speak. It was quite refreshing.

I have some other thoughts and comments to ad, but first a little history.

Hyndman History with the Hunts

This hire has been a long time coming. As many of you know by now, Hyndman’s relationship with the Hunts primarily stems from when Clark played for and was a captain under Schellas at SMU. The Hunts have frequently used Hyndman as a sounding board for soccer decisions. What many people may not know is that the Hunts first approached Schellas prior to the inaugural 1996 season making him an offer to coach the Columbus Crew, an offer Hyndman obviously turned down.

Even though the Hunts were not involved with the Dallas Burn at the time, when Andy Swift looked to bring in a new coach following the dismissal of Dave Dir, Hyndman was a finalist for the job. Schellas withdrew his name from consideration prior to an offer being made to any coach. Swift eventually made an offer to Mike Jeffries, who chose Dallas over the other offer he received from San Jose.

The Hunts were in the picture during the next era of FCD history, when Greg Elliott offered the coaching position to Hyndman following the dismissal of Mike Jeffries. Once again Hyndman turned the Hunts down. Greg Elliott hired Jeffries’ assistant Colin Clarke instead.

When Clarke was jettisoned by Hitchcock in 2006, the Hunts again wanted to offer the job to Hyndman. Some well placed followers of FCD & SMU told me, and have confirmed it since several times, that Schellas would have taken the job at that junction. Only Hitchcock had other ideas, he was already locked in on Morrow as his own man for the job. The Hunts, having just hired the upcoming “sales star” Hitchcock decided to back their new GM and let him hire Morrow. Indeed one of the reasons Morrow’s firing was so surprising was this “right man for the job” insistence Hitchcock had when he hired Morrow a year and a half ago against the Hunts’ desires.

It should have come as no surprise then that when Hitch canned Morrow the Hunts response was to effectively say to Hitchcock, we did it your way once, now we’re doing it our way. Despite Hitchcock’s search for a coach, once Morrow was out it was only going to be Hyndman’s job if he wanted it. The Hunts had already been talking to Hyndman since this last winter about the possibility of bringing him on as technical director and/or coach either right away or at the end of this next season.

So it’s no shock at all that we quickly arrive at today’s press conference, Hyndman’s vacation aside.

Hyndman Pros & Cons

Cons

The big knock on Hyndman has always been two fold. 1. Hasn’t won the big one and 2. Players don’t seem to get all that much better at SMU. Certainly with his recruiting base they are both legitimate concerns. He was asked about the title thing in the press conference.

I think everyone has their opinion. If you look at our record and the success that we have had at SMU and Eastern Illinois, it hurts me not to have won a national championship. We had a team that could have won but sometimes you lose games that you shouldn’t lost. I don’t think there is another program out there that has been to the NCAA Tournament in 30 out of 31 years. Hopefully a national championship comes here.

Ok fare enough I suppose. I certainly am a guy in the camp of being good all year long and for many seasons rather than sneaking into the playoffs and stealing a four game cup. I’d rather have a good team to watch all the time and win the Supporters Shield, upon which I personally place a higher value. Although I certain understand that’s not a popular opinion. The bottom line in Dallas for three of the four coaches fired here was “if you don’t win a title you’re gone.” One can’t help but wonder if that same standard will hold up now.

I’d like to think the second worry isn’t as big a deal with a pro team. There is a youth setup to develop players in theory, and much of what makes a pro get better is just training day after day and playing game after game. Coaching at the pro level should be about tactics and experience, not about teaching skills. Perhaps I’m just brushing aside what should be a concern, but I don’t think I am. If your team needs to teach and develop pro players to be good then you’ve done something wrong in your drafting and scouting.

I’m also a bit leery that Hyndman’s reputation as a disciplinarian won’t go over with pros. Most pros don’t like an in-your-face tough guy. Schellas talked about the difference in mentality between pros and college kids. Maybe he’s got the right idea.

I think I am very fortunate that I have coached at a high level, had a lot of success and had a lot of players go on to MLS. I think I have always known what the level might be at this stage. It’s all about players. What we have in this room are professionals. At the collegiate level, one of the biggest responsibilities of a college coach was teaching players how to balance their responsibilities with school, social life, and training. Here, they should have an idea of how to do that on their own. I want the same thing that the players want, personal success for them and personal success for the team. I think the players will know if a person can coach or can’t coach. There are no pretenders here.

I’m also a bit worried about Hyndman’s lack of experience with the cap and MLS rules. Of course our sources say Ellinger has been brought in to help with that, which doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. Hopefully Hyndman will talk to Director of Team Administration Bobby Hammond a lot as he’s been around a long time and has all the cap and rules down. Even with Hammond’s help there may be some errors and growing pains early in Hyndman’s tenure.

Pros

After having listen to Hyndman talk today, I’m actually optimistic about a few things.

First, as I mentioned above, is what appears to be an openness and sincerity about his manner. Players in general, particularly at the pro level, really want to know where they stand. What do I need to do to get in the team? What’s my place in the depth chart? Do you have plans for me? Under Dir, Clarke, and Jeffries, lack of communication and understanding of their position in the team was a constant bitch and criticism from players. They almost always were mystified about their position and nervous about their place in the team. (Oddly in light of his firing, I didn’t get this complaint much under Morrow who was a better communicator that most.) I am now hopeful that the frankness in Hyndman’s answers today will translate into his dealings with the players.

Second is his toughness, work ethic, and personal discipline. Quite frankly I think FCD has been a bit lacking in fitness this year. Some players haven’t been working as hard as I would like to see to get ready to play. There have been cases where I wanted to see a players dropped for lackadaisical effort or lack of desire. Hyndman I hope can instill some of his grit, work rate, and tenacity that comes through in his SMU teams into the FCD side. Will he be able to? I’m not sure, as I mentioned in the cons section sometimes pros don’t respond well to that stuff.

Third, Schellas knows and seems to have faith in the American players. Under the last two coaches here, Clarke and Morrow, need spots and key positions have always been filled and solved primarily with foreign players. Neither Clarke nor Morrow ever really trusted completely the American kids I don’t think. Hyndman is fully invested and connected in the American coaching and player system. Hopefully we’ll see a move to the younger, more American core of the team with a few foreign highlights to take the team over the top; rather than a core of foreign players with a few American’s filling in the gaps. That’s something I would definitely consider a step in the right direction.

I’m also fairly optimistic about the Ellinger hire, risk of bad trades aside. Ellinger has been very influential in the development of some of the best American players around. If Elligner is here to work with the FCD Reserves and the FCD Juniors program I’d be quite happy. The guy can indeed teach soccer and help make good players out of draft picks and kids. In fact his strength in this area fits well with something that, as I mentioned above, I perceive as a problem for Schellas.

Thoughts & Conclusions from the Press Conference

The past is water under the bridge and it’s time to move forward. From what Hyndman said in the public Q&A, as well as in some one on one discussions with myself and a few other media, I have come up with some conclusions about what we will likely see.

1) A 4-4-2 formation. He didn’t flat out say it, but he talked about his comfort zone and some of the coverage’s this shape would have that he likes. It’s what he almost always played at SMU and I’d bet you’re gonna see it with FCD. He did talk about tactical flexibility, but it was in terms of shifting forward and back in a formation.

Edit: Here’s a quote Tobias Lopez had in the Star-Telegram.

I think, watching this team closely, they may find more success in a 4-4-2.  I’m a strong believer in a 4-4-2 because of the width of the field, 75 yards; you have four people covering the defense instead of three. I think they played well, but sometimes they gave up soft goals, and that could be because they don’t have enough people back there.

2) Play will be possession oriented as it is now. This team is built to hold the ball and move it around. That’s how Hyndman wants to play anyway so it’s a good match of styles.

3) Players will play both ways, Schellas called this a “soccer truth” that he believes in. One dimensional players that can’t defend or can’t get forward will make way for those who can.

4) Each position will have clearly defined responsibilities and tactical jobs. Does that mean roles be overly defined and thus handcuff players in this artistic and instinctual sport? That could be an important question.

5) Hyndman is certainly going to ask for more effort and work from the team, and he may react strongly if he doesn’t get what he wants. Soft players aren’t going to like this new regime I predict.

6) FCD will fill the three open roster spots fairly quickly now that Hyndman is on board. And they will begin to look at bringing in come people during the window. The big question will be the time frame, is there enough to time to evaluate the team, decide what kind of player Schellas wants, find someone to sign, and get them in here.

7) Training sessions are going to be moved up, probably to 9 am.

Final Thought

So walking out of Hyndman intro I was actually feeling fairly optimistic, or at least more optimistic than I was the day before. But then again I’m a glass half full kinda guy, the eternal optimist who looks for the upside of everything.

Ask me again in a month and we’ll see if I still feel the same way.





27 Comments

  1. Comment by texgator on June 18, 2008 8:45 AM

    Buzz,
    Does Schellas usually go with a diamond midfield or does he like two central mdifielders like Clarke and Morrow did?

    My concern with the 4-4-2 with our current roster are the outside back positions….these have been problems for us for a few seasons now and with Morrow going to 3 in the back the problem wasn’t addressed at all…..actually it was worsened with the loss of Gbandi.

  2. Comment by Buzz Carrick on June 18, 2008 8:49 AM

    Usually it’s been a diamond, the last two seasons for example Ben Shuleva (a FCD draftee this year) played the deep role behind Bruno Guarda. Before that David Chun played the deep role behind Bruno.

    I’ll talk about a 4-4-2 with the current roster a bit later on.

  3. Comment by JT on June 18, 2008 8:51 AM

    Quote:
    >>
    “3) Players will play both ways, Schellas called this a “soccer truth” that he believes in. One dimensional players that can’t defend or can’t get forward will make way for those who can.”
    >>

    Does this mean that Saragosa will finally be dropped since he can’t do either…

  4. Comment by Buzz Carrick on June 18, 2008 8:52 AM

    Although the Diamond doesn’t have a pure offense #10, even Bruno in that system plays a ton of defense and goes both ways. He just has more freedom to range and get forward while the deeper mid stays home and breaks up anything through the middle.

  5. Comment by giggshasscored on June 18, 2008 8:52 AM

    I’m curious about Ellinger, and who is responsible for him joining FCD. Is Hyndman selecting him as who he wants as assistant? Or it this a Hitchcock move since we are assuming the Hyndman choice is more of a Clark Hunt move, and this is Hitch’s consolation prize?

  6. Comment by texgator on June 18, 2008 8:53 AM

    Later on sucks….I WANT IT NOW!!!

    Cooper–Oduro
    ——Rocha—–
    Toja———–Dax
    ——Richetti——
    FAIL—Davino—Moor—FAIL

  7. Comment by Buzz Carrick on June 18, 2008 8:54 AM

    Ellinger was Hyndman’s pick. In fact he was so adamant that it held up the process a bit as Schellas insisted they take care of Ellinger’s contract at the same time rather than afterward. They have a long relationship and really trust each other Schellas says.

  8. Comment by J on June 18, 2008 8:59 AM

    Good bye Arturo Alvarez. Two things that stood out to me where the comments about being a two way player and being mentally tough. I don’t think he is either.

  9. Comment by rhouston55 on June 18, 2008 9:14 AM

    Hey Buzz,

    Under the Pros section you have this sentence:

    “I am NOT hopeful that the frankness in Hyndman’s answers today will translate into his dealings with the players.” (caps are my emphasis)

    Since this is under the pros section I’m wondering if you meant to say “now” instead of “not”. I hate to be the typo police, but that one would make a pretty big difference in what you meant to say.

  10. Comment by Buzz Carrick on June 18, 2008 10:07 AM

    R55. yes. sorry.

  11. Comment by cowtown on June 18, 2008 10:14 AM

    For now:

    Cooper-Oduro
    —Dax—
    Toja—Rocha
    —Richetti—
    Wagner/Wallace-Davino-Serioux-Moor

    Bring in a natural defender, and trade whichever of Serioux and Saragosa you don’t need backing up Richetti. Bring in a “world class striker who can succeed in an overly physical league with poor service” (or whatever :wink: )

  12. Comment by Pegasus on June 18, 2008 10:19 AM

    J you may have a point about Alvarez. Conversely he may be forced to become the player he should be.

  13. Comment by Dan on June 18, 2008 10:47 AM

    I would rather AA become the player he can be instead of shipping him away.

    Coop-Oduro
    Toja-Serioux-Richetti-Dax (Rocha can fit in there as well)
    Wallace-Davino-Moor-Dello
    GK

  14. Comment by christian on June 18, 2008 12:21 PM

    From mlsnet.com:

    “Davids spent last season with Ajax in the Eredivisie, but is currently out of contract. Last season, Davids came close to signing with FC Dallas as their designated player before the deal fell through.”

    He’s out of contract currently, could this be the striker we need?

  15. Comment by Skeeter on June 18, 2008 1:37 PM

    Buzz’s conclusion 3+4+5 = Trading Arturo Alvarez
    I predict this is going to be the first roster move made by Hyndman.

    When I was reading the article, he was the first player that came to mind and then I when I made it to the comments section I see that others had the same thoughts. I think was all know what this guy is and it is time to trade him before the rest of the league figures it out (if they haven’t already).

    I am excited about the move to the diamond 4-4-2. I think Wagner looked very good in the back line on Sunday and he will be just fine at the LB position.

  16. Comment by Jamie Fougerousse on June 18, 2008 2:01 PM

    I’ve been asking for him for years, but what about Burciaga? He had a bad year last year and got benched and traded, but he’s mainly on the bench at Colorado due to Clavijo’s system.

    It would be a bit of a risk at this point, but the guy has shown quality at left back for years, and he’s from Duncanville- I bet he would love to play here.

    Oh, and I still think we need another forward.

  17. Comment by Aaron on June 18, 2008 2:31 PM

    I know this is completely unrelated, but when is Wagenfuhr coming back???

    He looked really solid the preseason and up until he got the concussion. a Wags,Serioux,Davino,Moor backline would be one of the best in MLS.

  18. Comment by ric on June 18, 2008 2:55 PM

    FCd doesn’t have 4 good defenders so some personnel changes must be coming for 4-4-2. Look for a 40 % personnel change over before the end of the season.

  19. Comment by 3nOut on June 18, 2008 4:21 PM

    the backline of wagner-davino-serioux-moor seems to be most likely.

    as far as the “diamond” MF, can somone inform me a little about how that works tactically? is it more offensive or defensive? i liked the MF texgator put up. seems to make most sense.

    as far as being in schellas’s doghouse, artie needs to quit acting like a primadonna if he wants to be considered a true professsional.

  20. Comment by 3nOut on June 18, 2008 4:22 PM

    btw, buzz…

    were you able to catch practice, or am i jumping the gun a little for tomorrow’s article?

  21. Comment by big mike on June 18, 2008 8:04 PM

    arturo is worried more about the color of his new cleats then about starting.

  22. Comment by Buzz Carrick on June 18, 2008 9:03 PM

    Christian, Davids is a holding midfielder.

    Aaron, Wags is three weeks away from his retest with Doc. We’ll see then.

    3nout, going tomorrow.

  23. Comment by FCDALLAS96 on June 19, 2008 6:35 AM

    Buzz,
    I do think it’s important to have a coach on the staff who can work with the players on their technique on a daily basis. I can tell you Manchester United has one such coach by the name of Rene Muelensteen who works with first team squad. You are never too old to work on the technical aspect of your game because that can always be improved.

  24. Comment by JPB4 on June 19, 2008 7:06 AM

    “I would rather AA become the player he can be instead of shipping him away.

    Coop-Oduro
    Toja-Serioux-Richetti-Dax (Rocha can fit in there as well)
    Wallace-Davino-Moor-Dello
    GK”

    ??????

    Rocha is our best attacking MF (he and Dax but Dax has been on the shelf), if anything you should be saying maybe Serioux can fit in in MF.

    Rocha’s field vision and passing are excellent, he could easily have 3 to 5 more assists and as it is he is a great distributor of the ball and reads Cooper very well. BTW time for Rocha to get a goal himself.

    Wallace as an outside defender? Uh, no. Serioux or Wagner would need to be there.

  25. Comment by twotone on June 19, 2008 5:32 PM

    alot of you guys are predicting that Rocha and Saragosa will be dropped to the bench and Arturo will be traded.

    methinks that wont happen for 2 reasons:
    1. our international spots are too valuable to be rotting on the pine. they’ll play somewhere or move on to their next team. Saragosa/Richetti depends on what Schellas will value at that position, and you can throw Serioux in there to. Look for Rocha and Ricky to stay cuz of our CAP deal, though.

    2. FCD doesnt wanna get burned by Artie like they’ve been burned by the Brad Davis trade. he may go to the pine for a bit until he gets in line and starts to play defense. if he doesnt, we’ll see Brek, Wallace, or even Wileman playing in front of him rather than him traded away.

  26. Comment by Skeeter on June 20, 2008 6:28 AM

    Rocha will definitely not be relegated to the bench, and it has nothing to do with CAP. It might have something to do with the fact that he is the leading assist man on the team.

  27. Comment by Toffee on June 20, 2008 10:15 AM

    Rocha’s work ethic, attitude and nationality are all pluses in Schellas’s book, so he will be a key piece.

    Schellas usually makes the midfield work with the personnel he has. If there is one consistent strength in SMU teams, it is usually the midfield. Shuleva was much more of a destroyer than anyone in previous years, so it worked more as a one in front of the other set up. When Chun was in there, there was more balance.

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