Comments on: Abdus Ibrahim Traded to Toronto http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/ The Independent FC Dallas News Source Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:56:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Steve http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10807 Steve Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:06:43 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10807 Nate and Skeeter, I absolutely understand why you're frustrated, but, to my mind, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this particular move. In fact, looking at all of the (roster) moves of the last year independently, they all seem well justified: selling Gbandi - They actually got someone to pay money for Chris Gbandi. He has yet to play a game for his new team. Let Goodson get expansion drafted - They cut their losses exactly when they should have. It would be fiscally irresponsible in a salary cap league to stick it out and get into a bidding war with any team in Europe. I liked Goodson a lot, but he had his brainless moments as well, and you can't break the bank on a player like that. The Ruiz trade - I'm biased because I had been hoping they'd unload him from the moment I became a fan of this team. Addition by subtraction at its simplest. He is lazy, overpayed, injury-prone at this point of his career, and his absence has allowed Cooper and Oduro to rise to the occassion. They definitely faltered hugely in not bringing in more players to add attacking power and defensive depth in the offseason, though. I hope they redeem that in the current window, but firing Morrow, and show that this is an unstable organization in the way that the coach search went down could cause doubts for prospective players. If the can turn the transfer momentum around, though, it could get very nice very fast, with the cap and roster flexibility they have now. Nate and Skeeter,
I absolutely understand why you’re frustrated, but, to my mind, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this particular move. In fact, looking at all of the (roster) moves of the last year independently, they all seem well justified:
selling Gbandi – They actually got someone to pay money for Chris Gbandi. He has yet to play a game for his new team.
Let Goodson get expansion drafted – They cut their losses exactly when they should have. It would be fiscally irresponsible in a salary cap league to stick it out and get into a bidding war with any team in Europe. I liked Goodson a lot, but he had his brainless moments as well, and you can’t break the bank on a player like that.
The Ruiz trade – I’m biased because I had been hoping they’d unload him from the moment I became a fan of this team. Addition by subtraction at its simplest. He is lazy, overpayed, injury-prone at this point of his career, and his absence has allowed Cooper and Oduro to rise to the occassion.

They definitely faltered hugely in not bringing in more players to add attacking power and defensive depth in the offseason, though. I hope they redeem that in the current window, but firing Morrow, and show that this is an unstable organization in the way that the coach search went down could cause doubts for prospective players. If the can turn the transfer momentum around, though, it could get very nice very fast, with the cap and roster flexibility they have now.

]]> By: Skeeter http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10800 Skeeter Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:40:45 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10800 Yes, Right on Nate! Just like the LA Galaxy debacle wasn't the lone reason for Morrow's firing, it came after a pattern of pathetic play had been established in the two weeks prior, this is just another in a pattern of pathetic transactions. Did the team do the right thing for the kid here? Probably so, but they have already used up their mulligans as far as I am concerned and I am ready for them to do the right thing for the organization and the fans. Steve, Dude, you are totally right about the roster flexibility that the organization has to make moves. I hope that they do make moves to strengthen the roster (and if they do and the teams still stinks, they will have my full support). I just think the only thing we are going to get from the FO at the close of the transfer window is more excuses. I hope I'm wrong. Yes, Right on Nate!
Just like the LA Galaxy debacle wasn’t the lone reason for Morrow’s firing, it came after a pattern of pathetic play had been established in the two weeks prior, this is just another in a pattern of pathetic transactions. Did the team do the right thing for the kid here? Probably so, but they have already used up their mulligans as far as I am concerned and I am ready for them to do the right thing for the organization and the fans.

Steve,
Dude, you are totally right about the roster flexibility that the organization has to make moves. I hope that they do make moves to strengthen the roster (and if they do and the teams still stinks, they will have my full support). I just think the only thing we are going to get from the FO at the close of the transfer window is more excuses. I hope I’m wrong.

]]> By: Nate http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10799 Nate Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:25:46 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10799 Its because this has become the norm for FCD. If this was the first move it would be different, but we are always rebuilding Its because this has become the norm for FCD. If this was the first move it would be different, but we are always rebuilding

]]> By: Steve http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10798 Steve Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:06:15 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10798 I don't get the backlash on this one. He hadn't done anything on the senior team, he had personal issues, and he was a second rounder himself. What's wrong with getting at least a second rounder, and freeing up a roster spot in that situation? Skeeter, most of the trades in this league involve draft picks and allocations. Do you honestly think FCD could have gotten an immediately useful live player for Ibrahim? I'm ecstatic that FCD has tons of cap space and 2 roster spots heading into the transfer window now. If they haven't taken advantage two months from now I will not be pleased. Now, if only Saragosa green card would get finalized... I don’t get the backlash on this one. He hadn’t done anything on the senior team, he had personal issues, and he was a second rounder himself. What’s wrong with getting at least a second rounder, and freeing up a roster spot in that situation?
Skeeter, most of the trades in this league involve draft picks and allocations. Do you honestly think FCD could have gotten an immediately useful live player for Ibrahim?
I’m ecstatic that FCD has tons of cap space and 2 roster spots heading into the transfer window now. If they haven’t taken advantage two months from now I will not be pleased. Now, if only Saragosa green card would get finalized…

]]> By: Rex Kramer http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10796 Rex Kramer Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:50:11 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10796 Burn Fan, shut up. There's more at stake here than a regular trade. FCD should be applauded for finding a way to allow this talented kid to remain in the sport while being close enough to his family to deal with the issues there. Burn Fan, shut up. There’s more at stake here than a regular trade. FCD should be applauded for finding a way to allow this talented kid to remain in the sport while being close enough to his family to deal with the issues there.

]]> By: Burn Fan http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10793 Burn Fan Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:17:18 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10793 ONCE AGAIN.... A TRADE FOR NOTHING.... HERE WE GO AGAIN! ONCE AGAIN…. A TRADE FOR NOTHING…. HERE WE GO AGAIN!

]]> By: JasonB http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10791 JasonB Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:22:26 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10791 If Ibrahim sticks with it, he is going to be a fantastic player. Ye is still very young, and is developing into a very good young player. If Ibrahim sticks with it, he is going to be a fantastic player. Ye is still very young, and is developing into a very good young player.

]]> By: Skeeter http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10789 Skeeter Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:13:52 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10789 I understand that this is a special situation here and I applaud the organization on trying to do the right thing, but are we on a Texas Rangers style 10 year rebuilding plan here? When is the last time that we actually traded a player and received a real live player in return? When I see traded for draft picks or allocation, I hear, maybe we'll be competitive next year or the year after. I understand that this is a special situation here and I applaud the organization on trying to do the right thing, but are we on a Texas Rangers style 10 year rebuilding plan here? When is the last time that we actually traded a player and received a real live player in return? When I see traded for draft picks or allocation, I hear, maybe we’ll be competitive next year or the year after.

]]> By: roach http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10788 roach Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:53:05 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10788 I wish the best for him. This wouldn't have happened if it didn't have to. that's my early morning thoughts. I wish the best for him. This wouldn’t have happened if it didn’t have to.
that’s my early morning thoughts.

]]> By: Nate http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/06/13/abdus-ibrahim-traded-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-10785 Nate Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:26:37 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/?p=1638#comment-10785 FC Dallas makes no sense. We shake up our lineup way too much, our staff is never consistent, we always get screwed in the playoffs. when all that is wrong it only points to the ownership. FC Dallas makes no sense. We shake up our lineup way too much, our staff is never consistent, we always get screwed in the playoffs. when all that is wrong it only points to the ownership.

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