Comments on: Sueño Four Invited to Join FCD Juniors http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/ The Independent FC Dallas News Source Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:09:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: twotone http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8694 twotone Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:35:52 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8694 thanks buzz. my thinking about the PDL team would be to consider players like Omar Gonzalez, Jonathon Villenueva, Corbin Bone, cameron Brown, Dane Saintus, all the SMU/Tulsa/UAB types that are free during the summer and create a PDL team. Most of these players already come back and train with FCD in the summers and they could play in the PDL like players from the Chicago-area play for Fire PDL, etc. That would also give competition to DFW Tornados given that they have to go to El Paso, Louisiana for games. thanks buzz. my thinking about the PDL team would be to consider players like Omar Gonzalez, Jonathon Villenueva, Corbin Bone, cameron Brown, Dane Saintus, all the SMU/Tulsa/UAB types that are free during the summer and create a PDL team. Most of these players already come back and train with FCD in the summers and they could play in the PDL like players from the Chicago-area play for Fire PDL, etc.

That would also give competition to DFW Tornados given that they have to go to El Paso, Louisiana for games.

]]> By: Buzz Carrick http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8678 Buzz Carrick Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:14:37 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8678 One more thing, you can't put a US pool player on your home grown list. They have to have been on the list prior to getting put into a US pool. Also a player has to have lived and played in your region for a year before you can add him to you list, so no cherry picking of seniors. One more thing, you can’t put a US pool player on your home grown list. They have to have been on the list prior to getting put into a US pool.

Also a player has to have lived and played in your region for a year before you can add him to you list, so no cherry picking of seniors.

]]> By: Buzz Carrick http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8677 Buzz Carrick Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:12:28 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8677 in order for a player to sign directly with the pro club, a full pro contract to be on the 28 man roster and thus eligible to play in MLS games, the player has to be on the "home grown" list submitted to MLS. Any player that lives in the designated area can be on the list if they agree, even players from other clubs like Texans and Solar. These "Home grown" players can skip the draft and sign directly with FCD. FCD can sign two of them per year. I think it fairly safe to say many of the FCD Juniors players, if not all, will be on the "home grown" list. A player can always turn down the contract offer if/when they receive it and opt for college. Being in FCD Juniors, or the US Dev Acd does NOT cost college eligibility or scholarship potential. They do NOT have to sign a contract to join FCD Juniors. Most of the players will go to college. One important question i don't know the answer to is, can FCD sign directly 'home grown" players that went to college or does that end the FCD claim. And pwip, I'm not sure why you couldn't see Josh, Brek, and Ibbe play in Dallas Cup. European teams send full pro players. The only question would be liability and risk. Although I would think the US Dev Acad would limit pro players from participating in their games. Dallas Cup is a different question. in order for a player to sign directly with the pro club, a full pro contract to be on the 28 man roster and thus eligible to play in MLS games, the player has to be on the “home grown” list submitted to MLS. Any player that lives in the designated area can be on the list if they agree, even players from other clubs like Texans and Solar. These “Home grown” players can skip the draft and sign directly with FCD. FCD can sign two of them per year.

I think it fairly safe to say many of the FCD Juniors players, if not all, will be on the “home grown” list. A player can always turn down the contract offer if/when they receive it and opt for college.

Being in FCD Juniors, or the US Dev Acd does NOT cost college eligibility or scholarship potential. They do NOT have to sign a contract to join FCD Juniors. Most of the players will go to college.

One important question i don’t know the answer to is, can FCD sign directly ‘home grown” players that went to college or does that end the FCD claim.

And pwip, I’m not sure why you couldn’t see Josh, Brek, and Ibbe play in Dallas Cup. European teams send full pro players. The only question would be liability and risk. Although I would think the US Dev Acad would limit pro players from participating in their games. Dallas Cup is a different question.

]]> By: pwip http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8675 pwip Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:07:22 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8675 So, are they given contracts? They have given up on college scholarships? Can we see these guys with Josh, Brek and Ibby in next year's Dallas Cup Supergroup? So, are they given contracts? They have given up on college scholarships? Can we see these guys with Josh, Brek and Ibby in next year’s Dallas Cup Supergroup?

]]> By: Balonpie http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8674 Balonpie Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:02:34 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8674 Buzz, Will these players be exposed to the draft? The proverbial, why develop a guy if you may loose hiim in the draft? Buzz,
Will these players be exposed to the draft? The proverbial, why develop a guy if you may loose hiim in the draft?

]]> By: Buzz Carrick http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8672 Buzz Carrick Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:15:29 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8672 No problem. I'm sure that doesn't even begin to cover it all. It will take some time for it all to shake out. No problem. I’m sure that doesn’t even begin to cover it all. It will take some time for it all to shake out.

]]> By: Carl http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8671 Carl Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:00:23 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8671 Thank you for the clarification. Like you said, confusing stuff. Thank you for the clarification. Like you said, confusing stuff.

]]> By: Buzz Carrick http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8670 Buzz Carrick Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:52:38 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8670 Obviously the youth system is very complicated. I'll try to answer what I can, and I certainly am not an expert on the youth leagues. FC Dallas Youth is a club system that is set up and run by a separate group of people, not FC Dallas. FCD is affiliated with it, they don't run and operate it. Although some of the FCD players and coaches coach for FCD Youth. FCD Youth plays in the Classic League with Solar, Texans, Andromeda, etc etc. There are certain teams in the FCD Youth set up that have represented FCD to this point in MLS sanctioned tournaments. Notably the U17s coached by Marco Ferruzzi. I believe, but am not positive, these may have been all-star like teams pulled from various teams in FCD Youth. This FCD Juniors teams will be owned and operated by FC Dallas. Exactly how many and several other factors are still to be determined. FCD Juniors will play in the US Development Academy. Solar also plays in the US Development Academy. Texas, as far as I know, does not. I think it's safe to say that much of these teams that have already represented FCD will make up the core of FCD Juniors. The idea it appears is to make elite level teams that will be above FCD Youth (ie not playing in the classic league). The idea is, I believe, to have the FCD Juniors clubs receive high level pro coaching and training even in the developmental stages. Solar and Texans ALSO play in the Red Bull U17 League. It's a youth league set up immediately after MLS announced the formation of youth teams, leagues, and tournaments. I imagine as a response to help those independent clubs stay competitive. You can read more about it here... http://www.redbullnl.com/boysU17/#/en/ TT, I don't know many of those answers, but yes it makes sense to have a PDL team of college players that have come out of the FCD Youth systems. But if FCD is going to have a PDL team, I think they would want to let certain of their young pros play on it as well as high school elite players that can play up. Obviously the youth system is very complicated. I’ll try to answer what I can, and I certainly am not an expert on the youth leagues.

FC Dallas Youth is a club system that is set up and run by a separate group of people, not FC Dallas. FCD is affiliated with it, they don’t run and operate it. Although some of the FCD players and coaches coach for FCD Youth. FCD Youth plays in the Classic League with Solar, Texans, Andromeda, etc etc. There are certain teams in the FCD Youth set up that have represented FCD to this point in MLS sanctioned tournaments. Notably the U17s coached by Marco Ferruzzi. I believe, but am not positive, these may have been all-star like teams pulled from various teams in FCD Youth.

This FCD Juniors teams will be owned and operated by FC Dallas. Exactly how many and several other factors are still to be determined. FCD Juniors will play in the US Development Academy. Solar also plays in the US Development Academy. Texas, as far as I know, does not. I think it’s safe to say that much of these teams that have already represented FCD will make up the core of FCD Juniors. The idea it appears is to make elite level teams that will be above FCD Youth (ie not playing in the classic league). The idea is, I believe, to have the FCD Juniors clubs receive high level pro coaching and training even in the developmental stages.

Solar and Texans ALSO play in the Red Bull U17 League. It’s a youth league set up immediately after MLS announced the formation of youth teams, leagues, and tournaments. I imagine as a response to help those independent clubs stay competitive. You can read more about it here…
http://www.redbullnl.com/boysU17/#/en/

TT, I don’t know many of those answers, but yes it makes sense to have a PDL team of college players that have come out of the FCD Youth systems. But if FCD is going to have a PDL team, I think they would want to let certain of their young pros play on it as well as high school elite players that can play up.

]]> By: twotone http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8669 twotone Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:59:28 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8669 I've seen several of these players in the Boys Classic league and they are quality. But they are not the only ones that are good, meaning there are many names missing from even the Sueno tryouts for the Latin players. How does FCD fill out the roster? Where does this team play? Wouldnt it make sense to gill out a PDL roster with these type players, college guys coming home for the summer, high-level amateur players, etc.....? I’ve seen several of these players in the Boys Classic league and they are quality. But they are not the only ones that are good, meaning there are many names missing from even the Sueno tryouts for the Latin players.

How does FCD fill out the roster? Where does this team play? Wouldnt it make sense to gill out a PDL roster with these type players, college guys coming home for the summer, high-level amateur players, etc…..?

]]> By: Carl http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/25/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/comment-page-1/#comment-8668 Carl Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:09:49 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2008/03/sueno-four-invited-to-join-fcd-juniors/#comment-8668 Buzz, I'm sorry if I'm wrong but I asked a few weeks back about the development academy and I thought you had said that Solar was in the Red Bull League or some other academy league that rivals the US Soccer version? Again, sorry if I'm misquoting you. Buzz,
I’m sorry if I’m wrong but I asked a few weeks back about the development academy and I thought you had said that Solar was in the Red Bull League or some other academy league that rivals the US Soccer version? Again, sorry if I’m misquoting you.

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