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		<title>By: 3rd Degree &#187; Archive &#187; Top Ten: Biggest Mistakes in FCD History</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/12/04/downtown-davis/comment-page-1/#comment-6131</link>
		<dc:creator>3rd Degree &#187; Archive &#187; Top Ten: Biggest Mistakes in FCD History</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] small town, but it&#8217;s miles and miles to far north.  FCD&#8217;s stadium should have been downtown in an urban setting (read the post linked for a more in depth discussion of why).  The Dallas fan base used to be part [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] small town, but it&#8217;s miles and miles to far north.  FCD&#8217;s stadium should have been downtown in an urban setting (read the post linked for a more in depth discussion of why).  The Dallas fan base used to be part [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pegasus</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/12/04/downtown-davis/comment-page-1/#comment-6007</link>
		<dc:creator>Pegasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree about Sea Hag Miller. Should have razed Reunion and built it there. Dallas passed on the Rangers, Cowboys, Burn, the horse track and the race track. Came close to losing Mavs and Stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree about Sea Hag Miller. Should have razed Reunion and built it there. Dallas passed on the Rangers, Cowboys, Burn, the horse track and the race track. Came close to losing Mavs and Stars.</p>
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		<title>By: FC Uptown</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/12/04/downtown-davis/comment-page-1/#comment-5877</link>
		<dc:creator>FC Uptown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AAC was barely approved (back room agreements?), and look what that is doing to downtown (huge success plus has spurred much new construction).  Unfortunately for the non-AAC teams like the Cowboys and FCD, we were looking for a stadium at the exact time Laura Miller moved into her job as Do Nothing Mayor.  Nothing was ever going to happen with her in charge - so blame the people who voted her in.  The whole thing disgusts me.  I hate Arlington and still feel the Rangers being out there is a joke.  When will Dallas get a baseball team?  Oh, and have fun at the Red River Shootout at Jerry World...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AAC was barely approved (back room agreements?), and look what that is doing to downtown (huge success plus has spurred much new construction).  Unfortunately for the non-AAC teams like the Cowboys and FCD, we were looking for a stadium at the exact time Laura Miller moved into her job as Do Nothing Mayor.  Nothing was ever going to happen with her in charge &#8211; so blame the people who voted her in.  The whole thing disgusts me.  I hate Arlington and still feel the Rangers being out there is a joke.  When will Dallas get a baseball team?  Oh, and have fun at the Red River Shootout at Jerry World&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barefoot</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/12/04/downtown-davis/comment-page-1/#comment-5871</link>
		<dc:creator>Barefoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, as a father of a fairly young boy, I plan to bring him to FCD games (he&#039;s still too young for it, but maybe in &#039;09).  I think I want to take him because I have such fond memories of attending FCD (okay, Burn) games at the cotton bowl back hen I was in my 20s, childless, and living in the city (i still live in the city, but you understand the demographic I&#039;m describing).

I have no desire to take my kid to Rangers, Stars or Cowboy games.  Not that I don;t like those sports, I do (well not hockey - soccer is not meant for the ice) it&#039;s that I do not have the FAN connection the visceral enjoyment of the live event.  Why?  Because I never ENJOYED those those games when I was in my 20s.  The Pokes were NFL live and with all the time out for TV, that is a really fucking boring experience.  Sorry for the expletive, but no other adjective could do a live NFL game justice.  (I&#039;ve been offered free, box seats for the Cowboys and turned it down for no reason other than those fcking TV timeouts).  

Point being, for a growing sport, it&#039;s really the 18-30 demographic that matters - old farts like me are either hooked or not.  I was hooked by Eck, Dodd, and Farrer.  I&#039;m a lifer now, and when my kid is old enough, he will be too.

I think Frisco does not preclude FCD from reaching the 18-30 demo, they just need to work hard to get it.  And the inferno becoming hard again would be a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, as a father of a fairly young boy, I plan to bring him to FCD games (he&#8217;s still too young for it, but maybe in &#8216;09).  I think I want to take him because I have such fond memories of attending FCD (okay, Burn) games at the cotton bowl back hen I was in my 20s, childless, and living in the city (i still live in the city, but you understand the demographic I&#8217;m describing).</p>
<p>I have no desire to take my kid to Rangers, Stars or Cowboy games.  Not that I don;t like those sports, I do (well not hockey &#8211; soccer is not meant for the ice) it&#8217;s that I do not have the FAN connection the visceral enjoyment of the live event.  Why?  Because I never ENJOYED those those games when I was in my 20s.  The Pokes were NFL live and with all the time out for TV, that is a really fucking boring experience.  Sorry for the expletive, but no other adjective could do a live NFL game justice.  (I&#8217;ve been offered free, box seats for the Cowboys and turned it down for no reason other than those fcking TV timeouts).  </p>
<p>Point being, for a growing sport, it&#8217;s really the 18-30 demographic that matters &#8211; old farts like me are either hooked or not.  I was hooked by Eck, Dodd, and Farrer.  I&#8217;m a lifer now, and when my kid is old enough, he will be too.</p>
<p>I think Frisco does not preclude FCD from reaching the 18-30 demo, they just need to work hard to get it.  And the inferno becoming hard again would be a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Carrick</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/12/04/downtown-davis/comment-page-1/#comment-5833</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz Carrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, that&#039;s backward and doesn&#039;t follow the logic.  The Cowboys are like real Madrid.  A well established team that can put their stadium anywhere.  

The logic above says a new team, like FCD, trying to build hype, coolness, crowds, audience, and a vibe needs to be down in thh urban setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, that&#8217;s backward and doesn&#8217;t follow the logic.  The Cowboys are like real Madrid.  A well established team that can put their stadium anywhere.  </p>
<p>The logic above says a new team, like FCD, trying to build hype, coolness, crowds, audience, and a vibe needs to be down in thh urban setting.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we follow his logic than the Dallas Cowboys are doom for not building their staduim Dowtown at fair park. Let&#039;s see if peole will travel to the burbs in Arlington</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we follow his logic than the Dallas Cowboys are doom for not building their staduim Dowtown at fair park. Let&#8217;s see if peole will travel to the burbs in Arlington</p>
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		<title>By: Burn Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burn Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When FC Dallas decided to move to frisco was there a clause that states there could be no other MLS team within a certain amount of miles? L.A. has two teams.... America was at one time looking to put a mls team together..... And with the hispanic fan base in Dallas..... Hmmmm makes you think and some scared huh? Now i&#039;ll buy that ticket and i&#039;m sure 15,000 fans would too!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When FC Dallas decided to move to frisco was there a clause that states there could be no other MLS team within a certain amount of miles? L.A. has two teams&#8230;. America was at one time looking to put a mls team together&#8230;.. And with the hispanic fan base in Dallas&#8230;.. Hmmmm makes you think and some scared huh? Now i&#8217;ll buy that ticket and i&#8217;m sure 15,000 fans would too!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chamo</title>
		<link>http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/12/04/downtown-davis/comment-page-1/#comment-5801</link>
		<dc:creator>Chamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stadium location is not the problem. It&#039;s the marketing of the team that is the problem. Although I&#039;m not convinced that HSG perceives the &quot;chucky cheese&quot; atmosphere at PHP to be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stadium location is not the problem. It&#8217;s the marketing of the team that is the problem. Although I&#8217;m not convinced that HSG perceives the &#8220;chucky cheese&#8221; atmosphere at PHP to be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Barefoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barefoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonny, are you putting us on?

That parcel, at the the intersection of Westmorland and Singleton is the RSR lead smelter superfund site.

I can assure you the last thing HSG wants is to acquire an interest in a toxic waste site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonny, are you putting us on?</p>
<p>That parcel, at the the intersection of Westmorland and Singleton is the RSR lead smelter superfund site.</p>
<p>I can assure you the last thing HSG wants is to acquire an interest in a toxic waste site.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is this nice piece of land just about 4 miles west of downtown Dallas. 

It&#039;s located next to the I-30/Dallas Fort Worth Turnpike when you pass N. Westmoreland Rd.

If you look up Quality Logistics Systems
on google maps in the Dallas area, you&#039;ll see a wooded area with a couple warehouses in front of it. Might be to many trees to clear out.

Although a lot closer than Frisco.  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is this nice piece of land just about 4 miles west of downtown Dallas. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s located next to the I-30/Dallas Fort Worth Turnpike when you pass N. Westmoreland Rd.</p>
<p>If you look up Quality Logistics Systems<br />
on google maps in the Dallas area, you&#8217;ll see a wooded area with a couple warehouses in front of it. Might be to many trees to clear out.</p>
<p>Although a lot closer than Frisco.  <img src='http://www.3rddegree.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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