Comments on: 120 Fahrenheit: 2008 Off Season One, What We’ve Learned about Steve Morrow

By: 3rd Degree » Archive » 120 Fahrenheit: 2008 Off Season Two, The Plan

3rd Degree » Archive » 120 Fahrenheit: 2008 Off Season Two, The Plan — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:06:38 +0000

[...] The following is based on several conversations with Morrow and his staff, what I know about the man, his (and my) opinion of the players, and what I know about how the league works. For further background that went into this piece you can read both the Final Season Grades and What We’ve Learned About Steve Morrow. [...]

By: Pegasus

Pegasus — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:02:49 +0000

Why does everyone think that “hotheads” need to be run off the roster? You think Houston wants to get rid of Eddie Robinson or Ricardo Clark? FCD seems to get very unlucky about when their “hotheads” go off. Just think for a minute how close Robinson was to getting his second yellow for all his grandstanding and abuse of the ref. If he had gotten it before AA did then the whole game and series is completely different. The ref didn’t have the balls to stand up for himself in a game like that.

By: the other alex

the other alex — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:12:09 +0000

Jason S. I’m more in the Goodson,Pitch,Dax,Arturo camp. I’m FOR more young Americans getting a real chance and not always being the ones pulled/benched. I was no fan of Mark Wilson and notice he has found his level in the third tier in England. Equally I am not a fan of ANY player (latin or otherwise) who holds the ball too long, doesn’t “see” the early pass and plays for himself rather than the team.
My favorite EPL player is Cesc Fabregas (Latino) BECAUSE he keeps possession of the ball, doesn’t hold it too long, plays it simple and picks his moments to be brilliant. One can only hope that ALL FCD players (including the Latinos) can learn something from him.

By: a-town Jack

a-town Jack — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:54:26 +0000

hutchtx….. I belive your right on with the comments about using the same players in the same system for as long as you can, consistency! I am a long time fan of the game,player and have even coached granted never at any great level but the one thing I have learned is the longer you can keep a group togther the better they seem to do. I am tired of changes made in the off season and during the season as well, I believe we have what we need as far as personel now can we just let them gel. I know to continue the growing procces you have to integrate dp’s, so let those guys fight for the spot of which dp might get the call up this week. Im just frustrated and have been for 11years now, thanks buzz for all the great info over the years and for you passion you help me get through it all and the great work of your staff as well.

There are couple of good young players at SMU not to mention a coach. And you guys stop with the Latino crap, Latinos might be are only hope at ever having a sell out crowd at the oven. Does anyone remember cinco de mayo 97or 98 I thought we had 30,000 strong that nite,ahh the good ole days. I do belive my lilly white ass was in the minority that game but man did i have fun. Also In my armchair oppinion I think the first two games of superliga might be the best soccer I have seen this team play.

So whats gonna happen with Denilson, do we give up without at least one off season training does Ruis stay and get green card alllowing for Saragosa to come back, god bless Bobby Rhine, shurly when he’s done he will coach or take on something in FO. That last game he was relentless can we get another fiveyears out of him. who is on the chopping block and who’s staying for sure . I know, all in due time try not to spread it out to long buzz.

By: hutchtx

hutchtx — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:32:30 +0000

Dear “other alex,”

What is your obsession with/bias against latino players? I think, if you go back & watch the games, you’ll see that the ALL of the FCD players, at times, have issues with making good passes, etc.

It’s a TEAM thing, not a matter of ethnicity. And sometimes, when a pass looks bad, it not because the player who made the pass was inaccurate, but because the receiving player messed up. Or maybe there as no one to pass TO, hence a player might seem to hold the ball and/or dribble too much. Or they are new to the team and still learning to mesh with the team . . .

ANYWAY.

I think, if you read the article under PLEASE READ, you’ll see that Houston and NE’s success has more to do with having the SAME players and using the SAME 4-4-2 / 3-5-2 system consistently over SEVERAL years. Period. It’s not whether a player is Latin American, North American, or Canadian . . . it’s ALL of the players having extended time to grow together as a TEAM.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:24:56 +0000

If you say so Buzz….

By: JuanIg

JuanIg — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:00:04 +0000

And DC United trusts the Latino player. And they won back-to-back Supporters Shields, the truer measure of a team’s talent. No “coincidence” there.

By: the other alex

the other alex — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:35:55 +0000

Kinnear trusts the north american player and to a slightly lesser degree so does Nichol. Their teams will contest MLS Cup again, no “coincidence” there.

By: harry

harry — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:36:40 +0000

Opening day lineup 2008-

…..Oduro…Cooper

…Toja Serioux Dax

…………Richetti

Wagner..Yi…Moor…Rhine

………Burse

By: Buzz Carrick

Buzz Carrick — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:55:16 +0000

Great point on Osorno.

FCD tired to sign Doe. NY offered more money. MY gut read of that is he wanted to go to NY the entire time having trialled with them twice and really only used FCD to up his NY price. Call me a cynic perhaps.

I don’t know how much FCD offered or how high they wanted to go. I too would have loved to see him sign with FCD as I thought he was better than Oduro.