Comments on: Expansion Draft Primier http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/ The Independent FC Dallas News Source Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:09:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: tex http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5429 tex Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:02:06 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5429 Wow, goodson gone which was clearly a shock to both Steve & Buzz. At this moment SJ has a far superior backline to us. Great job of thinking this one through guys. Wow, goodson gone which was clearly a shock to both Steve & Buzz. At this moment SJ has a far superior backline to us. Great job of thinking this one through guys.

]]> By: 3rd Degree » Archive » FCD Expansion Draft List http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5335 3rd Degree » Archive » FCD Expansion Draft List Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:19:33 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5335 [...] way of comparison, I missed two names on our prediction of the list.  The first, Saragosa, we said would be protected if Denilson did not need to be, which is what [...] [...] way of comparison, I missed two names on our prediction of the list.  The first, Saragosa, we said would be protected if Denilson did not need to be, which is what [...]

]]> By: Nathan http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5124 Nathan Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:32:50 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5124 Agreed Barefoot. He does not appear to be nearly as quick as he used to be. His loss of speed has greatly reduced his effectiveness - it's pretty hard to dribble past anyone if you can't outrun them. Initially I put it down to fitness level - I expected that it would return after 4 or 5 games. While I think he generally improved from game to game (the LA game was definitely an exception).. he always appeared to be lacklustre coming into the second half. Agreed Barefoot. He does not appear to be nearly as quick as he used to be. His loss of speed has greatly reduced his effectiveness – it’s pretty hard to dribble past anyone if you can’t outrun them.

Initially I put it down to fitness level – I expected that it would return after 4 or 5 games. While I think he generally improved from game to game (the LA game was definitely an exception).. he always appeared to be lacklustre coming into the second half.

]]> By: Barefoot http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5123 Barefoot Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:41:51 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5123 Re: Denilson From what I see, it's not a lack of desire or effort on his part, it's loss of a step. He does not seem as explosively quick as he was with Brazil. Dallas' attack also doesn't seem to spread the field enough for him to take advantage of the skills he does have. But then, the lack of width in the Dallas attack is the cause of a LOT of problems. Re: Denilson

From what I see, it’s not a lack of desire or effort on his part, it’s loss of a step. He does not seem as explosively quick as he was with Brazil. Dallas’ attack also doesn’t seem to spread the field enough for him to take advantage of the skills he does have. But then, the lack of width in the Dallas attack is the cause of a LOT of problems.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5099 Nathan Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:31:48 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5099 Possibly. I don't know that team scouts had a really good insight into Denilson's game in Saudi. His recent spell at Dallas though has had much more publicity and coverage. While I have personally enjoyed watching him play, the majority of the feedback has been negative. While other teams might still be interested, I think his bargaining power has probably been negatively impacted. In the end he will ultimately do it what is best for him both personally and career wise. I'm just curious to see how it plays out. While he has stated his desire to remain here, I am less optimistic of it working out for him Possibly. I don’t know that team scouts had a really good insight into Denilson’s game in Saudi.

His recent spell at Dallas though has had much more publicity and coverage. While I have personally enjoyed watching him play, the majority of the feedback has been negative.

While other teams might still be interested, I think his bargaining power has probably been negatively impacted.

In the end he will ultimately do it what is best for him both personally and career wise. I’m just curious to see how it plays out. While he has stated his desire to remain here, I am less optimistic of it working out for him

]]> By: Felipe http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5094 Felipe Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:45:56 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5094 Just a note about Denilson, if he does not stay here, we will play 1st league in Brazil, prior to signing with Dallas, he rejected 3 offers from Brazil A League Just a note about Denilson, if he does not stay here, we will play 1st league in Brazil, prior to signing with Dallas, he rejected 3 offers from Brazil A League

]]> By: Buzz Carrick http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5073 Buzz Carrick Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:36:14 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5073 I suggested protecting AA over Goodson because of how risky it was Yallop would take him. Also calculated in is how replaceable or valuable Goodson is compared to AA. FCD will for sure try and do a deal to dictate who they lose to SJ. I suggested protecting AA over Goodson because of how risky it was Yallop would take him. Also calculated in is how replaceable or valuable Goodson is compared to AA.

FCD will for sure try and do a deal to dictate who they lose to SJ.

]]> By: jack http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5071 jack Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:37:13 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5071 Protecting out of contract players in very risky but you suggest protecting Alvarez but not Goodson. Are saying Alvarez is likely to resign and Goodson not so much? It would seem to be a high piority to figure out who's going to be here next year within the next week. Any thoughts on trades (11-19), perhaps a deal gets worked out with SJ to not select any of our players like the TFC deal last year. Thoughts buzz? Protecting out of contract players in very risky but you suggest protecting Alvarez but not Goodson. Are saying Alvarez is likely to resign and Goodson not so much? It would seem to be a high piority to figure out who’s going to be here next year within the next week. Any thoughts on trades (11-19), perhaps a deal gets worked out with SJ to not select any of our players like the TFC deal last year. Thoughts buzz?

]]> By: Nathan http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5064 Nathan Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:30:25 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5064 I agree with James. I think your F assessment of Denilson is too harsh. I think you've focused too much on the price. I understand that $$ is important and he certainly isn't an A.. but I think you're too harsh on the F grade. Personally I'd put him at C-. He hasn't integrated well into the squad or provided the impact that his salary demands, but he's still probably the best dead ball player that Dallas has. i.e. best passer, free kick, corner kick taker and has plenty of creativity. I think he's also had a positive influence on individuals like Arturo and Ricardinho. At the end of the day Denilson still wants to play, and according to him he wants to play in the US. Dallas isn't going to pay his current asking price, but I don't see anyone else in the MLS waiting in line for him either. I don't know the details of his contract.. but it could present an interesting dilemna for him.. does he try and cut a deal with Dallas or does he just leave with his tail between his legs and end up playing second league soccer in Brazil. I think his back is against the wall a bit here... maybe he sees it different. I agree with James. I think your F assessment of Denilson is too harsh. I think you’ve focused too much on the price. I understand that $$ is important and he certainly isn’t an A.. but I think you’re too harsh on the F grade. Personally I’d put him at C-.

He hasn’t integrated well into the squad or provided the impact that his salary demands, but he’s still probably the best dead ball player that Dallas has. i.e. best passer, free kick, corner kick taker and has plenty of creativity. I think he’s also had a positive influence on individuals like Arturo and Ricardinho.

At the end of the day Denilson still wants to play, and according to him he wants to play in the US. Dallas isn’t going to pay his current asking price, but I don’t see anyone else in the MLS waiting in line for him either. I don’t know the details of his contract.. but it could present an interesting dilemna for him.. does he try and cut a deal with Dallas or does he just leave with his tail between his legs and end up playing second league soccer in Brazil. I think his back is against the wall a bit here… maybe he sees it different.

]]> By: eva http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/05/expansion-draft-primier/comment-page-1/#comment-5051 eva Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:02:10 +0000 http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/expansion-draft-primier/#comment-5051 i don't think yi would mind going back to cali. the weather's prob nicer than maryland :wink: i don’t think yi would mind going back to cali. the weather’s prob nicer than maryland :wink:

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